Therefore he would have been capable of getting himself back to Sunnydale without wandering out into the daylight by accident or getting on the wrong ship and ending up in China. Which means while he might have been a bit mopey, following the return of his soul, he wouldn't have been incoherent or a danger to himself. Spike went there for his soul, he knew what he was getting - and had seen Angel with a soul and how it affected him - so was probably slightly more prepared for the after effects. And his soul was always forced on him against his will. Second and third time around there was no raving at all. There was very little raving - a bit, but not much. My thinking is: Angel didn't go insane with the return of his soul. For example - is Spike's insanity a side effect of the return of his soul, or is it purely because the first is messing with him? And how long has he been there? Hmmm in order to know the answer to any of this we need to know answers that aren't given. In his alone time, like in the basement, I could easily imagine he feels quite deeply about the horrific things he has done as he is a particularly sensitive character, but he can't exactly sit there crying while Buffy's in the fight of her life with them all being picked off. But after being found, he had an amazing support system in a way, the focus kept on doing good and with too much to do to worry about what he had done, even on Angel he was constantly kept going, especially with Fred.
Comparing their journeys is kind of difficult, the are the same but they are also the opposite, they chase after their romantic interest and try to be who they wanted them to be, only Angel had no one after that, but Spike had Angel, Fred, Gunn, Wesley and Lorne who accepted him. This is something that goes down to the core of their pre-soul characters, Spike did things for fun, Angelus did things for the evil of doing them, again making Angel probably feel a hell of a lot more guilt in that regard then Spike. There was no support for Angel for a long long time, whereas Spike had it from the moment Buffy had known about his soul. Angel was also trying his best to be what Darla wanted and she is evil, with Spike it was Buffy and she is good, now if Drusilla was still his main romance, it would have probably gone the same way as Angel.
He also killed quite a few people - regardless whether they were murderers and rapists, that is going to weigh on someone, especially since he can't use 'well I didn't have a soul then' as a response, there is no logical way to get rid of the guilt from that. Angel couldn't deal with the guilt and it seems to be amplified by being alone (hence Spike being better around Buffy, also Angel going back to Darla). This is why I don't really consider Spike to be on the road to redemption until he was on Angel, he was doing what Buffy wanted rather than what was good, and Spike was different in season 7 - he is of the of the biggest complaints about the season because he's boring.Īngel was slightly different. Spike is also 'an in the moment' type person rather than someone who puts time into reflection like Angel. Buffy was also the centre of Spike's morality, so what Buffy says goes for the most part. He had to get his crap together, the first was influencing everything he does through guilt and Buffy was encouraging him to be as violent as pre-soul Spike was, it is something you would put in the 'deal with later' part of your brain. How I see it, Spike had brooded for a few months maximum before Buffy found him, and he had basically been thrown directly back into the fight. Much better to have introduced Spike saving Buffy life, say from her first fight with the Turkey Ham by killing it, hence that way helping make Spike a good guy from introductionĬlick to expand.Oh I have an answer to this one!
While Angel brooded for years about what he had done as a Vampire, took Spike only a few episodes of acting nutty, hardly affected him when he found he had been killing again under the influence of the first
SPIKE FROM BUFFY PLUS
The whole Spike in the cellar was again I feel just looking to try to fit Spike in, as with everything Spike was mixed up with from S5, what was the First brainwashing him for ? never understood the whole it is not time yet thing, was Spike leaving the cellar to kill ? if so why? why was we not shown ? the first had him kill the ten people he buried in the cellar plus at least Holden what for ? the first surely could have attracted as many vampires as it wanted as did the mayor, it already had a army of super vamps plus the bringers I never understood (A) how he got there (B) why was he never found either by construction or maintenance staff (C) what did he feed on ( D) why Buffy never told the other scoobies
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